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Celebrating Women featuring Stephanie aka @thefauxathlete

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In this episode of The Run Wave Podcast, we’re kicking off International Women’s Month by celebrating women.  First up is London based runner Stephanie, also known as @thefauxathlete on instagram.  Stephanie shares her running journey that began only 2 years ago.  She also gets incredible candid and talks about living with Endometriosis. 

In addition to being International Women’s Month, March is also Endometriosis Awareness Month.  Stephanie gives in depth details of the details, and how it was affected her life.  We also chat about mental health, and the stigma that comes with seeking therapy, especially in the black community.
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[00:00:02] Kim: [00:00:02] This episode is sponsored  by mid strike magazine, the first diverse digital runner’s magazine visit Mitch strike to keep up to date on all of your diverse running news.

[00:00:20] Kicking off women’s history month with Stephanie AKA, the faux athlete.

[00:00:36] Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of The Run Wave podcast. I am your host Kim. If this is your first time tuning in, welcome to the show. I am so happy to have you here. If you are a return, this scenario, welcome back to the show. I so appreciate you for tuning into the podcast week after week.

[00:00:56] If you didn’t know, March is women’s [00:01:00] history month and for the rest of the month, this show is being dedicated to. Everything woman. So I’m going to have three incredible women on the show, telling their stories and sharing their expertise. First up on the show, I have Stephanie AKA, the fo athlete. She is a London.

[00:01:22] Base runner. And I wanted to have her on the show because she is just so open and authentic online. And she talks about the things that people like to keep hush, hush, but she is putting it out there. She is sharing her stories and she is making a difference and making an impact on other people’s lives.

[00:01:43] So I just had to have her on, we had a great hook. It was nice to get to know her, to get to know her. Story. And I think that you would really enjoy what she had to say and just open your eyes to certain things [00:02:00] that, you know, come with a stigma that we don’t talk about, especially as a black communities.

[00:02:05] So here is what Stephanie had to say. Okay. So I would like to welcome Stephanie AKA, the fo athlete to The Run Wave podcast. How are you, Stephanie? 

[00:02:17] Stephanie: [00:02:17] Very good. I’m very good. Thank you for having me. 

[00:02:19] Kim: [00:02:19] And you know, I always have this discussion with some friends. They think F a U X is Fox and I’m like, no, it’s fo like fo for it’s not Fox.

[00:02:28] It’s fun.

[00:02:32] It’s not a British term. It 

[00:02:35] Stephanie: [00:02:35] might be the photo is it’s it’s French. It’s a French word. Look at me. I’m just 

[00:02:41] Kim: [00:02:41] look I’m wrong about where it comes from, but I know how to pronounce it. It’s fun.

[00:02:51] Stephanie: [00:02:51] Invitation. Yes. 

[00:02:55] Kim: [00:02:55] That’s a little bit about yourself. Where are you originally from? 

[00:02:59] Stephanie: [00:02:59] Where am I [00:03:00] from as in my family or where was I born? Where were you born? How did, how did you want me to go? We were going to go 

[00:03:05] Kim: [00:03:05] get all that. I want to know where you were born, your family, all of that. 

[00:03:09] Stephanie: [00:03:09] Okay, cool. I was born in a place called Luton in England.

[00:03:13] Uh, Newton’s a small town, about 30 to 40 miles North of London. Um, yeah, I was born in England, but my family is actually from Jamaica in the Caribbean. 

[00:03:24] Kim: [00:03:24] And you know what, everyone that I speak to that is. What’d you characterize yourself as black, British now? Yeah. Okay. So everyone has like black British, their family is always from somewhere else in the Caribbean or a country in Africa.

[00:03:37] So that’s so interesting. So your family came to the London area 

[00:03:44] Stephanie: [00:03:44] from Jamaica? Yes, my grandparents, my grandparents were the ones that brought us here. Um, they both came over and around about the sixties, I believe. Um, so my mom’s parents still live here in the same house that they bought when they first got here.

[00:03:59] They’ve lived in the [00:04:00] house forever. Uh, but my dad’s parents actually moved to Canada about four years ago or so 40, 50 years ago. 

[00:04:07] Kim: [00:04:07] Wow. So you get to visit 

[00:04:08] Stephanie: [00:04:08] Canada as well. I do I do. It’s a nice, I was going to say it’s a cheap trip, but it’s not cheap at all, but it isn’t easy,

[00:04:19] but 

[00:04:19] Kim: [00:04:19] it wasn’t easy. Canada is like a Commonwealth of, um, Britain, right? Yeah. But 

[00:04:25] Stephanie: [00:04:25] it’s still 4,000 miles away.

[00:04:31] Kim: [00:04:31] I know, you know, I haven’t even been to London, which is crazy, but like when you Paris is close. So when you go to Paris, it’s like a, I think it’s like a five, six hour flight from here. So it’s about the same for you to get to Canada? 

[00:04:44] Stephanie: [00:04:44] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of. It’s about seven, seven or eight hours. But, um, normally when I go, I’m going for weeks, like I’m going for like two, three, four weeks and just burdening, my grandparents would want that, that 

[00:04:55] Kim: [00:04:55] house.

[00:04:57] So can you travel to Canada [00:05:00] now during COVID times? Or is there like a. Is it still for everyone or 

[00:05:06] Stephanie: [00:05:06] UK board has been closed for a good little while now. Um, but the Canadian border has been closed for longer. So, um, they turned around and said, no, you ain’t coming in. You can try. 

[00:05:18] Kim: [00:05:18] You’re not getting in. 

[00:05:20] Stephanie: [00:05:20] So parents was supposed to go in August last year and up until like two days before they were just like, Sorry.

[00:05:30] Kim: [00:05:30] I know that they don’t want Americans or Canada. I knew that, but I felt like other countries had like some kind of leeway. 

[00:05:36] Stephanie: [00:05:36] No, no. We’ve got the cooties as well, because there was a marrying of the, of the virus that started in the UK. The whole world is like, Oh, we were abandoned from other countries for awhile.

[00:05:52] Cause we had, we had the greediest. 

[00:05:56] Kim: [00:05:56] So are you still in the same area town or have you moved [00:06:00] away from there now? So 

[00:06:01] Stephanie: [00:06:01] I moved to London, so I grew up in Lynn, um, for much of my life. And then I moved to London a good couple of years ago for work. And I, I lived in not far from central London and did the whole lifestyle.

[00:06:14] Um, But when I, I actually went traveling a couple of years ago and just before I went traveling around the world, I gave up my flat my problem and, uh, put all of my belongings into storage and. Kicked off 6,000 miles East. I went to Asia for a couple of months 

[00:06:31] Kim: [00:06:31] for a couple of months. Where did you visit?

[00:06:34] Yeah, 

[00:06:35] Stephanie: [00:06:35] I started in Beijing in China and it was a solo trip. It was one of those things. Like I’m going to reveal age. I turned 30 and I had, I freaked out and was like, what am I doing with my life? What have I done? So, uh, yeah, I quit my job. I gave up my apartment. I booked a one way to get to Beijing. And then just kind of figured it out.

[00:06:55] So I went to mainland China and then I went over to Japan then [00:07:00] to Hong Kong, then to Vietnam, I traveled down for Vietnam, into Cambodia, from Cambodia to Malaysia, from Malaysia to Bali, then Indonesia, and then back up to Singapore. And then I landed back in London, Heathrow on Christmas Eve because I’ve told him I’d come home for Christmas, 

[00:07:18] Kim: [00:07:18] living the life and solo.

[00:07:21] Yeah. I just wanted like the courage to travel. Like I’ve been to Miami for like two days by myself, but that’s it. I don’t think I could go for months by myself. How was 

[00:07:33] Stephanie: [00:07:33] that? One of the most incredible experiences of my life. It is the moment you have only your own company to rely on. You learn a lot by yourself, but you really learn to appreciate your own company.

[00:07:45] Um, you can wake up every single day and just say, what does Steph want to do? And I’ve got no one else to consider no one to compromise with. Just what do I want to do? It was, uh, Such fun memories. I [00:08:00] get emotional. When I think about it, 

[00:08:02] Kim: [00:08:02] I was going to ask you your age kind of on a DL, but I wanted to know because you got like with black people, you can’t tell how you look like you could be like 21 years old.

[00:08:11] I swear. 

[00:08:14] Stephanie: [00:08:14] Two liters of water a day.

[00:08:21] Kim: [00:08:21] Good looks great. I mean like, is she 21? Is she 41? Like. You can never tell, but 

[00:08:29] Stephanie: [00:08:29] yeah, that was my best. Kept secret intimate. I’ll say something I’m like, Ooh, they didn’t know that, but now it’s out there. I am. I’m 32. I’m 33 this year. 

[00:08:44] Kim: [00:08:44] Listen, I have a few years on you. So enjoy, enjoy thirties while you can. I know this is like, I can’t believe this is still going on.

[00:08:56] Like. We thought we were going to be out of work for two weeks. So [00:09:00] they go back, but we’re still here a year later. 

[00:09:03] Stephanie: [00:09:03] That’s the one you had the best to be like, what are you going to do? Right guys, we’re going to get dressed up for the one year on a pass. 

[00:09:11] Kim: [00:09:11] So what is it that you do in London? How do you make your coins?

[00:09:16] How 

[00:09:16] do 

[00:09:16] Stephanie: [00:09:16] I pay my bills? So I like in sales, I work in tech sales. Um, I worked for a startup that’s based in London and I’ve been in sales for about seven years now, but it’s not where I started. One of my degrees are actually in, um, social care and social sciences. So psychology, criminology. And I started my working life and doing early prevention work for frontline social services.

[00:09:39] So I can have young people in their families. Yeah. But then ended up in sales. 

[00:09:46] Kim: [00:09:46] Okay. And how are you liking that? The sales world. It just seemed like that, like a free kind of person, like you have nose rings, right. But you had the hoop, you know, when people have the hoops they’re way cooler

[00:10:03] [00:10:00] Stephanie: [00:10:03] got tattoos. I didn’t know him. Um, Sales, I enjoy sales. It’s the whole reason I got for it. Cause it’s always a weird story when people are like, how’d you go from social care to say it was, but it was, it was quite simply that like sales afforded me the lifestyle that I wanted to live. And so, and by that, I mean the ability to travel, uh, relatively freely to afford to travel, but also to travel with work.

[00:10:30] Um, so I, I enjoy sales. I enjoy the, um, The commission that brings, but, but it was so loud. Right. Um, but I guess director of some awesome brands, some really early stage brands that are doing really cool things in lots of different spaces. And I get to interact with them very early on in their growth, their growth journeys, and almost helped to kind of map some of that out with them.

[00:10:59] Um, [00:11:00] which is really cool. 

[00:11:01] Kim: [00:11:01] Yeah. Sounds cool. So let’s get into your running a little bit, because this is a running podcast. So what sneakers are you currently running in? 

[00:11:12] Stephanie: [00:11:12] I’ve got a pair of Brooks or running shoes. I think the adrenalin ones that I bought in 2019. And they haven’t reached the end of their life cycle just yet 

[00:11:24] Kim: [00:11:24] from 2019.

[00:11:27] Stephanie: [00:11:27] Listen, I’ve got no app telling me when I got changed.

[00:11:33] Kim: [00:11:33] I don’t follow those apps. I look at the soles of my shoe when the soles of my shoes get worn. That’s when I got the sneakers, because those apps say like 300 miles, like I can go longer than 300 miles in my shoes. There 

[00:11:47] Stephanie: [00:11:47] is that there is, I guess, where the shops have been closed. I like to go and like, try them on, you know, getting a feel for it, jump around, run on there, or like the treadmill and they’d been closed.

[00:11:56] So I’m, I’m so scared of buying shoes blind, and then getting here [00:12:00] and then not be a to be, and then I’ve worn them. So I can’t send them back. 

[00:12:05] Kim: [00:12:05] So is London still shut down or are you guys like gradually opening? 

[00:12:10] Stephanie: [00:12:10] No. We, we said today is actually the very first day of the restrictions being lifted for phase one.

[00:12:17] We’ve been knocked down for basically five months. Um, like official lockdown is for two months, but we were on this tiered system before that, which meant the much of the country were basically on lockdown since Halloween or just after Halloween. Wow. 

[00:12:35] Kim: [00:12:35] Wait, so what’s, what’s you guys’ definition of lockdown because of the lockdown here in the us is like a joke, like, are all the stores close the bars, like what’s open.

[00:12:46] What can you go to 

[00:12:48] Stephanie: [00:12:48] supermarkets open? Uh, the school was actually had been closed for the past two months. So schools went back today. Really? Yeah. Yeah, schools, colleges, universities have been closed. Non-essential stores have been [00:13:00] closed. So it’s mainly supermarkets. Um, the little corner shops that managed to get away with saying they’re essential because they sell, sell some drinks, like lockdowns been locked down.

[00:13:12] Wow. Stay at home orders. Yeah. 

[00:13:15] Kim: [00:13:15] That’s that’s it’s still unbelievable. Like I’m pretty much okay. I’m not locked down per se, but I stay home most of the time, you know, I’m just like, yeah, like I’m just trying to be as cautious as possible though. My husband goes to work every day and the kids go to school, most things.

[00:13:33] But yeah, for me, I feel like I’ll be the one to get COVID and give it to everybody else. Like if I go on a run, so I’m like, let me just stay here. And talk to people like you. 

[00:13:50] Stephanie: [00:13:50] I haven’t done a great deal. Like even supermarket shopping. I’m like, do I need to eat this week? Do I really need to eat? Do I have to go to the shops?

[00:13:58] Kim: [00:13:58] I’m the same [00:14:00] way? Like, do you guys have, you don’t have target in London, right? 

[00:14:03] Stephanie: [00:14:03] No, we don’t enable our equivalent is like as there and Tesco and Sainsbury’s so the big supermarkets. Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:14:10] Kim: [00:14:10] So like, I don’t like going to the supermarket because it’s so. Like crowded almost. And I just feel like ski, when I saw I have to do all my shopping at target and we like rarely have meat around here unless my husband buys it because like, um, I can’t go through the supermarket anymore.

[00:14:25] It’s just me out. It’s 

[00:14:26] Stephanie: [00:14:26] crazy. Yeah. It’s where people go to spend time now because they’ve got nothing else to do.

[00:14:39] Kim: [00:14:39] Good. The supermarket is like the new cafe or the new bar, which is crazy. Yeah. 

[00:14:45] Stephanie: [00:14:45] It was just hanging out in the frozen line.

[00:14:50] Kim: [00:14:50] I wonder, like what, what are we going back to when this is over? Like, yeah, 

[00:14:56] Stephanie: [00:14:56] I do wonder this or not because I’m really quite an extrovert. I’m quite a social [00:15:00] person. The last time when we had like a little blip in our locked down where they, they gave us like a little taste of freedom and my mouth pumped, some colleagues, I didn’t know how to act.

[00:15:08] I was like, I don’t know how to interpret to you anymore. Cause you 

[00:15:11] Kim: [00:15:11] can’t like hug people. There’s no kissing, no handshakes. Like what do you do? 

[00:15:17] Stephanie: [00:15:17] Yes. I’ve seen this for the past five months. 

[00:15:21] Kim: [00:15:21] Craziness. So tell me about your running journey. When did you get into running? 

[00:15:28] Stephanie: [00:15:28] So it’s, uh, I think to answer that question, I have to go back into the bath, take a step back.

[00:15:32] So I, I got back into running two years ago, so, uh, the roundabout May, 2019. Uh, but I stopped running. Before I had my, well, when I had my accident in my teens, um, that led to my hip replacement. So I used to be really athletic. I used to be used to run. I used to do trips well, John and long jump and javelin and discus.

[00:15:55] And yeah, I was a very, very athletic person, but when I had my accident that [00:16:00] 13, it just, it brought into all of it. And then I hadn’t run well in nearly 20 years. By the time I got back into it two years ago. Wow. 

[00:16:09] Kim: [00:16:09] So what, what, what was your accident? What happened? 

[00:16:13] Stephanie: [00:16:13] So I was in, I was part of a school, um, competition.

[00:16:18] So I was doing, discuss. Javelin and long jump. Those are my, my three events. Then my events, I went and sat down, got myself ready to like eat and drink and just chill out. And then my coach asked me to take upon the four by 100 relay because someone had to drop out and I didn’t want to cause it wasn’t my, it wasn’t my event and I’d call it down.

[00:16:41] And like, I was ready to go home. I’m waiting for the bus. Like I’m ready to go. And long story short, I ended up doing it, taking part in it and. On that very first leg I’m coming around the corner and I felt something just go in my leg and I was furious. I was so angry. Cause I’m like, I didn’t want to do this anyway.

[00:17:00] [00:17:00] You made me do it. I pulled a muscle. Um, went to the doctor. They said, yeah, you pulled a muscle. And it just deteriorated over the next eight weeks. And then eventually I was at a swimming pool and I slipped on a step and my hip just, gosh. So how would you. I was 13. I was, it was about three weeks before my 40th birthday.

[00:17:24] Kim: [00:17:24] Wow. So when did you have the hip replacement at that time? When I was 19, 19. So years later? 

[00:17:30] Stephanie: [00:17:30] Yeah. Yeah. So they did lots of, um, they tried to do a lot of like preventative surgeries because I hadn’t had my first grand spur. I have my very first worst spot in the hospital that week after the seven days, the nurse looked at me and was like, Are you tall?

[00:17:48] Are you longer? And mom’s like, she doesn’t, she doesn’t don’t go. Well, I think my very first Bruce, but in the hospital, but they couldn’t do anything major until I’d finished [00:18:00] growing, because if they did a hip replacement then, or did anything else, it was a bit more severe. I would have had extra complications once I started to grow.

[00:18:08] So they tried to put it off 

[00:18:09] Kim: [00:18:09] for as long as possible. And you know what I saw your pulse. I don’t know if it was like a year ago. And you had like a, you showed your scar and it was like, you’re one of the, like most transparent people that I follow on Instagram. And it’s. I admire that because you know, a lot of us keep quiet about so many things, but you put it out there.

[00:18:31] Yeah. Yeah. And by you putting it out there, it encourages other people to do the same thing. But when I saw your scar, I said this 21 year old, what is she doing with the hip

[00:18:46] Stephanie: [00:18:46] that’s . You had a woman and I’m like, yeah, but I had one of them like, great.

[00:18:59] Kim: [00:18:59] So what [00:19:00] kind of hip did they give 

[00:19:00] Stephanie: [00:19:00] you? So I’ve got a portion in here, which again, people are like, what’s the give your first name here? And I’m like, wait, it’s really durable. It’s like, it’s really strong. It’s really durable. But if I fall over and it shatters, then it’s game over. So I’ve got to be very careful.

[00:19:17] To protect my hip, but they, they gave me porcelain. Um, and it’s now that hip is now coming up 13 years old. It’s been 13 years since I became bionic. 

[00:19:31] Kim: [00:19:31] So how does a hip replacement word does it last forever? Do you have to get it replaced at a certain point in time? 

[00:19:37] Stephanie: [00:19:37] So they, at the time when I had my hip replacement, um, obviously, cause I was so young, normally MC is much older people having care replacements, but they were like, we think you’ll get maybe 10, 20 years out of it.

[00:19:49] They don’t know I’m 19 years old. And they’re like, we don’t really know what someone like you is going to do with their hip. So they were like, you might get 10, 20 years. [00:20:00] Um, I went for my 10 year post-op checkup a couple of years back, and then I said, it’s good. You’ll easily get like another 10 years, Alex.

[00:20:07] It’s stable. It’s not squeaking. It’s not, it’s not rocking. Not squeaking. Yeah, because sometimes people’s week or grind or Creek. Yeah. So it’s so far so good. I am hoping for another 10 years, but then yeah, they have a lab, like a lifecycle where they’ll start to where eventually, and they’ll need to be replaced again.

[00:20:32] Kim: [00:20:32] So were you, did you go back to being an athlete after your hip replacement? 

[00:20:38] Stephanie: [00:20:38] Not immediately. So for the first two years post replacement, you have to kind of take it relatively easy whilst it sells into its new body, your muscles have to repair, it has to stabilize correctly. So for the first two years, it was just.

[00:20:52] Relearn how to walk properly because it’s six years of being in a wheelchair and on crutches and having [00:21:00] secondary issues with my knees and my, on my spine and my shoulders. So it was really just the first two years were just learning how to do the basics, sitting down, standing up, walking straight. And then after two years I joined the gym again and it’s just been a steady 10 year journey of rehabilitation.

[00:21:17] Wow. Just to do more and more. 

[00:21:19] Kim: [00:21:19] So what brought you back to running two years ago? 

[00:21:23] Stephanie: [00:21:23] So, yeah, it all happened. It was started in Asia. So previously I’d have to be really, really strict with my, with my workouts because the moment I stopped it’s like my body just seized up. So I had to be really conscious of keeping myself active, keeping myself moving to keep my.

[00:21:42] Hip and my comfort at its optimal level. When I went to Asia, there was no gym. I wasn’t going traveling to go to the gym every day. Yeah. So, so, but I, it was the heat really helped. So the heat helped enough that I didn’t need to exercise everyday. Just keep myself moving. So I’m walking a lot. [00:22:00] I was hiking.

[00:22:01] I was climbing volcanoes. I was, I was doing all sorts. I was doing all of these things I’d never done before or, or never thought I was capable of doing before, because I was always so cautious about. About damaging my hip. And then when I got back, I was so empowered by what are these new experiences that I’d had?

[00:22:17] I’m like, I want to, I want to keep this up. I wanna do something else. I kind of challenged myself. So in that gap between me coming back from Asia and going to the U S cause I traveled around the U S after that I messaged one of my friends. He does obstacle course racing. That’s that’s his thing. He did the four by four by 48 this weekend.

[00:22:34] Like he’s he’s into those challenges. Yeah. Wow. I messaged him and I’m like, I’ve got to go this year. I need to do two obstacle course races. That’s it. So I’m like, sign me up, sign me up to, to thinking he’s going to be like, yeah. A 5k fun run, you know, maybe some inflatables. It’ll be great. Yeah. So the email confirmation I got was a 10 mile tough Mudder full and I’m like, Dude [00:23:00] the first one and the second one was a 10 K inflatable race.

[00:23:06] And I’m like, I haven’t run in over a decade, dude. What are you trying to kill me? What have I done to you? Um, so when I came back from America in the, uh, April, I was like, okay, we need to, we need to prepare for this. Otherwise I’m going to look stupid. So I started doing the cash to 5k. I’m like let’s, let’s try the couch to 5k.

[00:23:27] Let’s just start slow. See if it works, has been recommended. And that’s how I got into running. I swear by the couch to 5k is a phenomenal program. That’s how I got 

[00:23:37] Kim: [00:23:37] into running as well. Calcified 

[00:23:39] Stephanie: [00:23:39] it’s it’s so it’s remarkable. I love it. I love 

[00:23:43] Kim: [00:23:43] it. So what is, what did you do after you finish your C to 5k that you like into races?

[00:23:51] What was your next move? 

[00:23:53] Stephanie: [00:23:53] So it finished, um, just before the 10 mile tough motor fool. So straight forward, [00:24:00] straight from the five gain on the company, crazy. Like 

[00:24:02] Kim: [00:24:02] who, who does that? Especially like talk monitors are hard. Like that’s not easy. That’s like running and then some. 

[00:24:12] Stephanie: [00:24:12] I never told him why was terrifying, terrible, but I’m that research and like, what happens?

[00:24:18] Like I know at the end of some of the, when they had the electric and the electric wires and I’m like, that might kill me and my buddy that way I couldn’t do. I’m like, he’s trying to kill me. He’s obviously done. So I’ve done something to him. So yeah, it was, it was, it was a tough metaphor and that was the next, the next step.

[00:24:37] And then after that was the 10 K in player, boom, about a month after. And I did. What else did I do? And then I’m planning to do so that was kind of towards the end of 2019. And then my plan in 2020 was to do more racist. I’m like, cool. I’ve got two under my belt. I got one of the hardest done. Let’s try some other things.

[00:24:56] Um, but 20, 20 wasn’t to be. 

[00:24:58] Kim: [00:24:58] I know [00:25:00] crazy. So what is like the run scene in your area? Are there running clubs that you are a part of or want to be a part of. 

[00:25:09] Stephanie: [00:25:09] There. What? So there’s, I think there’s two, but they’re on the other side of town. The one that I really wanted to get into was, um, It’s it’s like this gym run thing where like you run, you do things for the community.

[00:25:20] You’re like give back to the communities and you run between the destinations. So you meet in one place and you might run to someone’s house in like an elderly person’s house. Um, and then you help them with the gardening and then you run back at the end and that’s kind of how you spend that evening.

[00:25:34] They hadn’t started one in my town just yet, but they had like a waiting list I’d signed up to. Um, and then, and then COVID happened. So we do have a park run. I used to go to on Sunday mornings, uh, bright and early nine, o’clock go down to the park run and do the 5k around the park. Um, yeah, that was, that was really what I was involved in.

[00:25:55] Kim: [00:25:55] Well, you know, a few weeks ago I interviewed these fellows from London. That call, they have a group [00:26:00] called more than running. I don’t know if you heard of them. I have. Yes. So they meet weekly on, um, I think Saturdays or Sundays in South park. Is that a place. I can’t remember. Sorry.

[00:26:16] Stephanie: [00:26:16] Sorry, I’m just thinking of the cartoon. I 

[00:26:18] Kim: [00:26:18] know. No, but I think it’s South something. It’s, it’s some, it’s it? He said it’s in a posh area. Like when he, when I sleep, when I say the video, no, they’re not in Kensington. They’re out. Like, I don’t know. I’ll let you know later, but when I see them running, cause they post videos of all their runs.

[00:26:36] There’s like dads with strollers jogging in the park, but. Yeah. If you’re looking for a group to run with those guys, they’re like dope and they welcome everyone into their fold, then 

[00:26:47] Stephanie: [00:26:47] no, there were so many in London. I’m following a couple, like they got the fly girl collective as well. I’m following quite a few, but they’re just like 40 miles away.

[00:26:56] Yeah. Yeah. It’s like a train journey or like [00:27:00] a 45 minute hour drive. So it’s not that I should do is start one round here in like a post COVID world. 

[00:27:06] Kim: [00:27:06] That would be a good idea. Cause you know, there’s probably people at home just like you and they’re like, I’m going to run with some people and you know, that’s how these run clubs and crews start with one person saying, you know, who wants to head out for a run with me?

[00:27:21] You’re onto something.

[00:27:26] Stephanie: [00:27:26] Yeah. Maybe I will consider it. Cause I love parkrun. Like parkrun was the only thing that could drag me out of bed on a Saturday morning. However or not, I was going to run that park. Um, I, yeah, I, I do really like running clubs and maybe, maybe that is a shell. Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:27:41] Kim: [00:27:41] What are you doing? Are you doing anything else other than running to stay fit?

[00:27:47] Because I don’t think gyms are not open there. Right? 

[00:27:49] Stephanie: [00:27:49] No gyms had been closed since locked, locked down before knocked down months. I actually built my own home gym because I was so fed up of, um, Them closing and then [00:28:00] opening and closing and an opening. I built my own home gym. So I’m doing lots of strength work during the week.

[00:28:05] Um, yoga really got into yoga in January. I love me some yoga, um, and cycling. I got back into cycling, uh, during lockdown and one last year. So I’ve really been enjoying cycling 

[00:28:20] Kim: [00:28:20] Peloton. 

[00:28:22] Stephanie: [00:28:22] No I’m working on it. I’m working on getting the Peloton. Yeah. Everyone 

[00:28:28] Kim: [00:28:28] has a Peloton. I’m like, what is the big deal with this Peloton bike?

[00:28:32] Goodness, 

[00:28:33] Stephanie: [00:28:33] what it is about it, but it captivates me. I want one, I’m going to get it’s on my list. Some list of things to acquire. Um, but now I cycled out on the roads. That’s like a lot on the roads. I’m quite lucky in that where I live is surrounded by farms and Hills and green spaces. So going on a bike ride, especially when the weather’s nice, this is.

[00:28:54] Such a good experience. 

[00:28:56] Kim: [00:28:56] That’s nice when you live outside of the city and you know, you [00:29:00] can experience, uh, fresh air and just open roads. Yeah. Yeah. I follow these girls on, um, YouTube, like Lydia Millan and Patricia Bright and, um, you know, they’re always going for these long walks in the countryside and I love it.

[00:29:18] And the wellies. 

[00:29:19] Stephanie: [00:29:19] Oh, yeah, 

[00:29:22] Kim: [00:29:22] I know. I know they’re called wellies. Now you yacht. It’s the tall boots by like, we only have like Hunter. I know you guys have Hunter. I have like a couple of pair of those, but I only bought them for style, not for like the mud.

[00:29:37] Stephanie: [00:29:37] I know, 

[00:29:39] Kim: [00:29:39] I hear that rubber boots that we wear for style in the States, they call wellies, 

[00:29:46] Stephanie: [00:29:46] I’ve got, I’ve got pairs of hugs and I’m like this. It’s not cold enough.

[00:29:53] It’s so extra. 

[00:29:56] Kim: [00:29:56] Oh, Jesus could be my jam, man. I had like 10 pairs in so many 

[00:30:00] colors. Crazy. 

[00:30:01] Stephanie: [00:30:01] Yeah. Well, I enjoy the hugs and the one that a few times just got below zero degrees. I’m like what? But to get the hooks up, get my way around them. 

[00:30:12] Kim: [00:30:12] So the purpose of me asking you to be on the show is because it’s women’s history month and we’re all about we celebrate, I celebrate women three 65, but we have our own month as well.

[00:30:23] So we’re celebrating us. For the month of March, but March is also Dmitri. What am I saying? Endometriosis awareness in months. And I mentioned earlier that year, one of the most transparent people that I follow on Instagram and I saw one of your posts and it was your stomach. And, you know, it was a long detail pulse.

[00:30:46] I read the pulse and you were saying, you were blow. You’re not pregnant, but I’m bloated. And this is what my stomach looks like at this time of the month. And you know, you off often hashtag and a warrior. [00:31:00] Yeah. So what is your journey like with endometriosis? How did you find out that you had it? 

[00:31:07] Stephanie: [00:31:07] Yeah, first of all, I was one of the very lucky people that got diagnosed quickly.

[00:31:13] So, um, in the UK, there is it’s one in 10 women or people with, um, female reproductive organs who experienced endometriosis. It’s an incurable disease is for some, a debilitating disease. And on average diagnosis takes seven years. Wow. Seven years for me, it took three months.

[00:31:36] Because not much is known about it. It’s one of those things wherever in the last two years or so, there’s been a far more of a spotlight on the disease and far more recognition that it is it’s, it’s its own thing. That it’s not just the bad period, which is previously what doctors would say. You go to the doctor and say, my periods are really bad.

[00:31:53] And they say, hell, it’d be like that sometimes. And it’s like, no, they’re really bad. And they’re like take to [00:32:00] Paris that I’m going to take some painkillers and. So I get up like that’s, that’s how God made you. Um, and so trying to get diagnoses can be difficult because it also shares a lot of symptoms of other diseases like PCI PCLs and things like that.

[00:32:14] So without the, um, the knowledge around the disease, It’s previously just taken a very long time for one fee to be taken seriously. When you go and say, I’ve got these symptoms that don’t feel normal, uh, but to, for them then to investigate and rule out everything else to then find me narrow it down to okay.

[00:32:32] It’s endometriosis. Um, for me, I was lucky because, um, it’s, it’s a hereditary disease. Um, so my, I had family members who were diagnosed of it. And so when I started to get symptoms now, I was like, I think I know what this is in a quick Google self-diagnosed and was like, that’s what it is. I went to my doctor and said, I think I’ve got individualizes.

[00:32:55] I was really, really fortunate in that I got a female doctor who actually takes women’s [00:33:00] health really seriously. And she said, describe your symptoms. There is one symptom of endometriosis that. Anyone I speak to says, that’s it. And that is when, if you haven’t Dimitri, Yosis trying to like, when you open your bowels or like, um, pass wind, or like anything whilst you’re on, it can be excruciating pain.

[00:33:21] It can feel like a knife is being like, pushed into your butt. Like it’s a, it’s a pain that is hard to describe if you’ve never experienced it. And when I mentioned this to this doctor, she was like, yep. Yep. I think I know what it is. I think you’re right. I think it’s endometriosis. And that was, that was how quickly I got diagnosed.

[00:33:41] And that was, I was 17. I was 17. And at the time of the limited knowledge they did have the only treatment available was to go on the pill. Um, and it was like, if you run back to the pill, it gets worse with every period you have. So if we can just limit the number of periods that you have, that can be a treatment [00:34:00] that’s, that’s a Whittier.

[00:34:02] Kim: [00:34:02] So are you, is, are you only in pain when you’re on your period or is it like all the time we’re here and there? 

[00:34:10] Stephanie: [00:34:10] So the worst is when I’m on my period. Um, again, I’m lucky that it doesn’t impact me as much when I’m not on, I will sometimes get little twitches and I know exactly what it is. Like I can feel when I late, I can feel it on my left or my right side on all of your day.

[00:34:25] And sometimes I’ll get, yeah. What does that feel 

[00:34:28] Kim: [00:34:28] like? 

[00:34:29] Stephanie: [00:34:29] It feels, it feels like a really sudden crap. Like I’ll be sitting here minding business, and it’s something that I’m like, Ooh, like, Ooh. And it’s like a dull ache, just Adobe Acrobat an hour. And then it goes, um, but sometimes the endometriosis can cause the pain to resonate in my hips, which is really strange.

[00:34:48] So I get pain in my hips. Sometimes we might end those really bad, but there are other women who get, you know, they, they suck all the time. It’s constantly on or not. 

[00:34:57] Kim: [00:34:57] So when you were 17, they put you on the pill and that [00:35:00] was the cure quote, unquote cure. 

[00:35:03] Stephanie: [00:35:03] Yeah. They were like, good luck. 

[00:35:07] Kim: [00:35:07] That’s crazy. Yeah. So what does, how does that affect fertility?

[00:35:14] Cause, you know, a lot of women when they’re on the pill, when they’re really young and then for a very long time, they have problems conceiving when they’re older. So how would that affect 

[00:35:23] Stephanie: [00:35:23] you? So endometriosis can actually impact your fertility as well. So, um, I haven’t actually explained what it is, but those, we don’t know what it is essentially.

[00:35:32] It’s the tissue that forms inside your womb. Like that builds up on the lining of your womb. When you have a period similar cells like similar tissue cells grow outside of the womb. So they can grow, um, like on your bowels or when your ovaries or your fallopian tubes, but it’s outside of the womb and it reacts to your period when you have it in the same way that it breaks away.

[00:35:50] But then it’s got no way to exit when you have a period, you know, the, and builds up, it breaks away and then it comes out and you’re good to go. But when it’s in other parts, it has nowhere to go. And that can [00:36:00] cause inflammation and pain and create like scar tissue. It’s like a really sticky substance that confuse your organs together, um, and create like scar type tissue.

[00:36:10] It’s a really, it’s a really complex disease. Um, Oh, shoot. I forgot the question.

[00:36:21] That’s what I need to make sure it wasn’t Spears. Um, so, so yeah, so if it’s growing like on your fallopian tube or in your ovary or something like that, it can, it can cause complications with your fertility anyway. And for a lot of women, there’s no correlation necessarily between how severe your endometriosis is and, uh, and the pain or symptoms you have.

[00:36:42] So you might have no pain, no symptoms, but then find that you can’t conceive. And at that point they look in, and you’re riddled with endometriosis, like it’s everywhere, or you might have lots and lots and lots of pain and debilitating symptoms. And when they look in there, there’s barely any, so there’s no correlation between kind of how severe and the painting or symptoms.

[00:37:00] [00:36:59] Um, so yeah, so unfortunately for some it’s at that stage where they go to conceive or they discover they’ve got it. So the way my doctor had left it, cause I went to the doctor recently and said, You know, what, what do I do here? Like, um, at the time I was 31 and like, I’ve been on the pill for a years. I don’t necessarily want to stay on it for my entire life.

[00:37:19] Like what, what can I do? And they basically said, you can come off of it if you want. Um, if, if like, if, if you’re okay with it, you can come off and just see how your periods go. And if they get bad, you can go back on. But they basically aren’t going to do anything until it comes time for me to try and conceive.

[00:37:36] Yeah. If I ever choose to our children to try and conceive. And at that point, if there’s complications and they’ll say, well, we’ll look into it further. 

[00:37:44] Kim: [00:37:44] Whew. So, yeah. So in 2021, is it easier to diagnose than it was back then? 

[00:37:53] Stephanie: [00:37:53] It should be because it’s more of a, because it’s recognized now. And like people, I went to the doctor when I went to get my [00:38:00] referral, my most recent referral to speak to the consultant.

[00:38:02] And I said, I’ve got into mitosis. I need to speak to the doctor. And he was like, yep. Done. He was like, I’m do it right now. Like, don’t you worry? And that’s the day that referrals. So they’re far more doctors generally are far more aware of it. They’re more conscious that if you go to them and say, I’m having very difficult periods, it’s one of the first things that investigate.

[00:38:20] Whereas before the last things at investigate, so it should be easier. Um, we don’t have those stats yet. 

[00:38:28] Kim: [00:38:28] So today the solution today is still to go on the pill and that’s it. 

[00:38:33] Stephanie: [00:38:33] There is surgery. You can have. So when I say it’s complicated, it’s so complicated. So the pill is one thing that you can do. You can manage it with the pill to reduce the number of periods that you have, but also the pill can help to lighten your period as well.

[00:38:46] So it can, for some, it can help for some it doesn’t, um, or you can rely on painkillers and just hope for the best. For most of us painkillers really don’t touch the pain when, when you’re running, when you’re suffering. Um, well you can have a laparoscopy. So [00:39:00] laparoscopy keyhole surgery, they go in company decisions in your stomach.

[00:39:03] They go in and they’ll cut away as much endometriosis as they can see that can help to improve your symptoms. The caveat is that if they don’t get all of the endometriosis, if it’s just a little bit hidden around the back, you know, hiding behind your bow, where they can’t find it, when you start having your periods again, it will grow back.

[00:39:26] Kim: [00:39:26] Yeah. I’m just like speechless. Cause you know what? It’s like, people don’t talk about this. Yeah. And you know, I commend you because I, I mean, I heard the term, but I did, I had to Google it. Cause I didn’t really know what it was, you know? And I don’t know anyone personally that has suffered from it, but at least like, who’s your support system because you said it ran in your family.

[00:39:49] Stephanie: [00:39:49] Yeah. So I’m like, I’m, I’m quite open about my, I talk about Paris to everyone. I’m like, Jeff, I want to do 

[00:39:55] Kim: [00:39:55] it. The fellows are probably listening to it. Like, what are we listening to? But this could be [00:40:00] your wife one day fellas to listen up. That’s really good 

[00:40:02] Stephanie: [00:40:02] wife, your sister, your mom, or you just, you just don’t know.

[00:40:04] So I’m all for speaking my truth and being like, this is what I’m experiencing in doing. So I’ve actually helped three other people be diagnosed when they were like, wait a minute. There’s that? Not normal? And I’m like, Go no, go and speak to your GP. Um, so in my support network, I’ve got family members I can rely on.

[00:40:24] I’ve got friends, I’ve got a number of friends who have also been diagnosed since I’ve been diagnosed, so we can rely on each other. I, I very, very recently had a colleague reach out to me, um, because it is endometriosis awareness month. She put up a post in our company Slack, and I was like, Oh, Hey, I’m going to know her.

[00:40:41] She’s like, Oh my God. Really? Because she knew no one else. And I’m like, cam man, I’m like, Oh yes, I’m a veteran in this game. So I’ll speak to anyone. I’ll speak to anyone about it. I’m really quite open. And you’ll see me on Instagram stories when I’m suffering. Like my womb is portraying me again. [00:41:00] Someone said help.

[00:41:02] Kim: [00:41:02] So what is the bloat from? Is that from the tissue or is that like gas? What is that? 

[00:41:08] Stephanie: [00:41:08] So that is my endometriosis is around my bows and endo belly. If you type in hashtag endo belly, E N D O belly, you’ll find a lot of pictures of people with these big stomachs. It’s where it causes inflammation. The endometriosis can cause huge amounts of sweating.

[00:41:25] Um, for most people it’s between kind of the first and fourth day for me, it starts from day two. So like they one I’m going to go to bed. I’m fine. Day two, I’ll wake up in the morning and my stomach is huge and because any sort of movement in my abdomen. Can trigger pain. There’s nothing I can do. I’m not going to try and suck in my stomach to appease anybody.

[00:41:47] I’m not gonna, I put on jeans. I’m like, give him my pajamas. And I’m a stay at home because any sort of movement here, even, even like suburb, even like even a bit of gas to go to. And it just to like to urinate [00:42:00] causes pain and problems and suffering. So any sort of movement in your abdomen is painful. So I just relax, relax my muscles.

[00:42:09] And I’m just like, Just be just let me be comfortable.  

[00:42:14] Kim: [00:42:14] so you don’t have to tell me, but do you have a plan like in the next coming years, you know, if you want it to start a family or, you know, do you have something in your mind of what you’re going to do? 

[00:42:26] Stephanie: [00:42:26] Not a clue, not a clue. I really struggle with planning for the future because you alluded to it earlier.

[00:42:33] Like I’m quite a free spirit. I kind of go with the flow. Um, and like, I’ve just bought a house and I’m like, so I guess I’m going to be here for a bit, like, I’m going to jump to, I enjoy some, like, I guess I’ll be here for a bit, but I really, I learned a long time ago that, that the future isn’t always promise.

[00:42:48] So with that, I don’t try to make plans too far in advance. Um, for now I have decided to try and come off the pill. Um, [00:43:00] so that is my plan for now. I, I actually found that my endometriosis symptoms improved when I stopped taking me about two years ago. Um, just by jobs. I didn’t do it for the endo. I did it because I spent.

[00:43:14] I spent a long time in Asia eating mussels. And do you talk? So when I came back and I thought you’d each challenge to stop eating meat became two years posts, and I’m still here meat free, but it had an impact on my endo. It’s the only thing that I changed that kind of impacted my hormones. Um, So I’m going to see if I can come off the pill and manage my symptoms with diet, exercise, and homeopathic therapies.

[00:43:43] And if I can’t and jumping straight back on it, or I’m going to find something else like, Oh, I want to try a more natural way of if I can. 

[00:43:53] Kim: [00:43:53] You know, I, I had a friend who. You know, deals with fibroids. And that was one of the things that she said that worked [00:44:00] for her was becoming a vegetarian. And she might even be almost all the way vegan now.

[00:44:05] But yeah, I think like a limit it, you know, it’s crazy that we, we talk about it within our little circle. Like I had another friend that was dealing with something similar. She went all the way vegan and that helped her symptoms. But, you know, I commend you for talking about this publicly. Because we just, as women, you know, sometimes we keep everything inside and sometimes we might have one or two people that we tell privately, but you know, in the social age that we are in, it’s good to share our stories because we.

[00:44:38] You know, we can help other people and be the catalyst to, you know, maybe that girl that was getting her period really heavy and didn’t know what it was. She’ll listen to this and now she’ll know and go get help for it. So, yeah, I really commend you for telling your story and you are truly a warrior.

[00:44:55] With a porcelain hip. I mean, come on.

[00:45:05] [00:45:00] Stephanie: [00:45:05] stuff like, like I say, I I’ve always been a relatively open book when it comes to things like that. Cause I’m like it like talking about periods should not be uncomfortable. It is the most normal thing.

[00:45:21] Nicknaming it like, Oh, it’s the time of the month Paul’s here. Like I’m bleeding, I’m bleeding. So I’m all for speaking openly about, about periods and my hip replacement. Um, and even the scar. It’s funny, you mentioned the scar because it was something I was so embarrassed about for so long. Because it’s a big old Scot.

[00:45:43] It’s like a 10 inch scar down my body. Um, and obviously like this all happened when I was a teenager. I don’t mind going through puberty and no one wants to be different. No one wants to be that person, like on crutches or in the wheelchair, or he walks funny or it looks a bit different. And I was always so embarrassed of it.

[00:46:00] [00:46:00] And then I got the older, I got the more I started to appreciate. I, the more I start to appreciate it. Um, and the fact that it’s not just a reminder of something that I’ve been through, it tells a story because when people see it and they’re like, Hey, what happened to your leg? I’m like, Oh yeah, I’m going to fake it.

[00:46:15] Yeah,

[00:46:18] and I’ll put it up and I told them the four thing, I’ve got one there and I’ve got one here. Um, and yeah, just kind of, it’s a reminder of what I’ve overcome is the way that I’ve started to look at it rather than a reminder of what I’ve been through and suffering. It’s more of a reminder of what I’ve been able to overcome.

[00:46:37] Kim: [00:46:37] Exactly. So before I let you go, Why are you known as the pho athlete? Because you look like a real athlete to me.

[00:46:48] Thank you. Thank you. 

[00:46:52] Stephanie: [00:46:52] The athletes. So it came from the fact that obviously when I was younger, I was super athletic. Like I wanted to be in the Olympics. I was never going [00:47:00] to go to university. You know, I was going to be an athlete. That was it. I’m like I’m done with this education stuff. Let me do what I legally need to do.

[00:47:06] And then I’m out. Um, And obviously, because it all came to an end, uh, because of my accident I had initially I then had to get academic. And when I got back into it, I was like, I’m kind of like an athlete, but I feel, I feel like a bit of, a bit of an imposter as a little bit of imitation there. So I was like, I’m a fake athlete, like a fake has like a negative connotation.

[00:47:29] So I’m like food just sounds a bit more classic. So I’m like the full athlete 

[00:47:34] Kim: [00:47:34] and most people don’t know we’re foaming anyway. So 

[00:47:38] Stephanie: [00:47:38] I love it.

[00:47:42] I love it. 

[00:47:45] Kim: [00:47:45] I want to thank Stephanie for being on this show. AKA the fo athlete. Um, tell everyone where they can find you on socials. 

[00:47:55] Stephanie: [00:47:55] You can find me on Instagram. That is my main channel at the fo athlete. That is T [00:48:00] H E F a U X athlete class. Everyone can spell athlete, but you can find me there 

[00:48:07] Kim: [00:48:07] and I will list all of her details below.

[00:48:10] So you can go follow her and follow her journey. And you know what I wanted to ask you about therapy, I’m ending the interview. And I didn’t even ask you about therapy because you speak about that as well. 

[00:48:20] Stephanie: [00:48:20] I do. I’m telling you 

[00:48:22] Kim: [00:48:22] she is an open book. So what made you want to 

[00:48:25] Stephanie: [00:48:25] talk about that? So I feel like, so everything that I’m open about, it comes from a place of the fact that black people don’t often talk about things when they’re wrong.

[00:48:34] Right? They’re all very much like you, because for lots of reasons, like the reasons to that run deep, but we will kind of like, keep it hush, hush. Don’t tell nobody your business, somebody look and see what you do. So. And that was one of the things like the, the scar was the one thing, um, the periods was another, but therapy is such a big thing that I feel like when you’re born, you should be given a doctor, a dentist and a therapist.

[00:48:56] Like it, it should be fundamental. So [00:49:00] I’ve, I’ve struggled with, I say, struggled with I’ve had issues with just maintaining a good mental health for a little while. And, uh, last year, uh, lockdown, jus not that I just did it, like all of the normal. All of the normal avenues that I would use to escape to, to find joy, to find happiness, I’ve travel.

[00:49:20] I go to other countries, I would experience cultures and cuisines and I’m a social person. So I like being around other people’s energy. That was just not the way. And I was suddenly just left me and my thoughts and for anyone else who is a millennial. Or Jen said, or just any age who is kind of caught up in that fight peace lifestyle work and going out work and going out.

[00:49:43] I was so deep in that the, all the times that I was like, gentlemen, not feeling good, or I don’t really feel myself right now, or I’d get a bit weepy in the evening. I’d be like, I aint got time to feel sad. Like I ain’t got time to deal with this. I’ll get to it when I’ve got a minute and I would go on.

[00:49:59] I’d [00:50:00] carry on. I’d carry on living that lifestyle. And when locked down happened, it’s like, it was like, stop the world, just go around to a hole. And I had no other choice, but to face the fact that I’d been unhappy for a while, just stare it right in the face and was like, man, this, now that I’ve got time to deal with it, this sucks.

[00:50:19] I don’t like how this feels. So, um, so yeah, it’s kind of just trying to juggle so much in, and it suddenly grinding to a whole kind of made it all land in my lap. And I was like, I think I need to speak. So I finally, and it’s take the time for myself. I’ve been given this kind of opportunity is a blessing in disguise from the universe.

[00:50:37] I should, I should go and spend some time on myself. So I went to my first, um, therapy session. I did six weeks of cognitive behavioral therapy, and then I spent a couple of weeks kind of learning and practicing what I had been taught during that session. Um, and then later in the summer I went and started some talking therapies.

[00:50:57] And I specifically found for the talking therapies piece. [00:51:00] I specifically found a black therapist, um, to work with for, for lots of reasons, but one of the key ones was like cultural reasons, but there are some things that are very, um, kind of universal in the black community growing up. And there are languages and terminologies you use the other people get, but it might.

[00:51:19] Cause alarm. So people outside of the community, like, so I wanted to speak to someone who could relate. Um, so I could just kind of speak openly and 

[00:51:30] Kim: [00:51:30] yeah, you sound like Randall on this as us. I don’t know if you guys have that show in the UK. 

[00:51:37] Stephanie: [00:51:37] Yeah, it’s this 

[00:51:38] Kim: [00:51:38] family, this family, it’s a whole big thing. I can’t even get it.

[00:51:40] So he was the same way he was looking for it. He had a white therapist and he said, you know, she doesn’t really get me. So he went on to search for a black therapist and that was like, where it clicked for him. But yeah. Yeah, thank you for talking about it because there’s such a stigma around therapy.

[00:51:58] Like people, I don’t [00:52:00] know why it’s so taboo, like it’s taboo to get your annual checkup. Like it’s, this is not taboo. This should be the norm for us. Right? Like we all do it. Yeah. We should talk about it. So yeah. I commend you again for being open and having the courage to discuss it because it’s something that.

[00:52:17] We in the black community, we need to talk about more because why folks don’t have no problem talking about that? You know, there are 200 out therapy session. They have no problem at all, but it’s such a thing with us that, you know, it, it, it makes people stay in their bubble and not really get the help that they need.

[00:52:35] So, yeah, 

[00:52:37] Stephanie: [00:52:37] it’s almost like if you’re seeing a therapist, it’s because you’re mad, like there’s something wrong with you. Your burden is to kind of like indicative. And it’s like, no, I might be a met, broken, but like, I’m trying to fix it. How can you stay perpetually broken or I can fix it. Um, it’s yeah, it’s definitely a mind.

[00:52:51] It’s a mind shift that we have to have within the community that we talk about it more openly. And we talk about the positives that come from it. It’s not just a, you’re going to go and talk to your [00:53:00] business to some, some stranger is not that at all. It’s. Seeing the outcome after, like, I felt so much better afterwards so much, but I can’t begin to describe how different I feel now to the person I was a year ago.

[00:53:14] Well, like I will praise for every all Ornella. Someone comes to me like Stephanie had a bad day. I’m like, get yourself a therapist. I don’t care if it’s just a one, go and get to talk to somebody. 

[00:53:25] Kim: [00:53:25] No, it’s like mental maintenance. Like we take care of our bodies. We need to take care of our minds as well.

[00:53:30] Stephanie: [00:53:30] Absolutely. Absolutely. But thank you for giving me the platform to speak about it because I’m just going to run into myself. So thank you for inviting me. Thank you for inviting me and giving me the platform to speak candidly. 

[00:53:44] Kim: [00:53:44] So happy to have you on. And I love when I can talk to people that are in different countries, because it gives.

[00:53:50] My audience, a chance to get to know someone else that is from another part of the world. And, you know, it’s just, it’s just nice to connect people and I’m sure you’re gonna [00:54:00] have a bunch of American followers after this. And 

[00:54:05] Stephanie: [00:54:05] it’s funny that you say that I had to very recently put my location on my Instagram at, because of like, I dunno, I used the hashtag last year, I think I used hashtag black runners and I suddenly got a bunch of people following me from Atlanta and they hadn’t realized it.

[00:54:19] Let’s see me speaking in a historian and be like, Whoa,

[00:54:28] Kim: [00:54:28] American. They don’t realize that there are black people in London. Like they, they don’t realize that, but I know it’s like a whole community and a broken community and yeah, they don’t realize 

[00:54:38] Stephanie: [00:54:38] that. It’s like where we’re steady taking over . So I didn’t have my people reaching out. Like, could you do a commercial and the rest of them, like, Oh no, I can’t be there on Tuesday night.

[00:54:49] I’m sorry. On my Instagram. Just make it clear. 

[00:54:56] Kim: [00:54:56] Why? Because when people scroll and they only see pictures and they’re not watching your [00:55:00] stories and they automatically. So, but there’s black people all over the world. Y’all not just in Africa, in America, 

[00:55:07] Stephanie: [00:55:07] the whole continent of Europe we’d be doing around, you know, 

[00:55:12] Kim: [00:55:12] but again, Stephanie, for being on The Run Wave podcast, I will leave all of her details so you can contact her.

[00:55:20] If you have a story to tell I’m sure she’ll, she can be a listening ear for you and help you through your journey and follow her. She is, I love it. She’s an open book and I just love all of the knowledge that I’m getting from her. And I’m sure you guys will enjoy it too. So thank you again for being on the 

[00:55:37] Stephanie: [00:55:37] show.

[00:55:38] Thank you again. 

[00:55:40] Kim: [00:55:40] All right. I hope you enjoy my interview with Stephanie AKA, the foe athlete. I will leave all of her details down below. Please be sure to follow her. She is one of the Instagram buddies that I have that I look forward to seeing her post day after day and [00:56:00] check out her stories too. So you can enjoy the British accent as much as I do.

[00:56:07] Anyone British on the show. I love it. Y’all know that I love it. If you listen to all the episodes with my British people y’all know that I love having them on this show. So if you are British and you want to be on the show, send me a DM. I would love to have you. But yeah, that’s all for this episode of The Run Wave podcast.

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